Board Chair Meeting
Purpose of the Committee/Meeting
To create, through small meetings held on a regular basis, a direct line of communication between student representatives from all three schools and the Chair and Vice Chair of Cooperâs Board.
People
Present: Mark Epstein, Francois de Menil, Jamshed Bharucha, Lawrence Cacciatore, Casey Gollan (Art Student Council), Rachel Appel (Art Student Council), Mauricio Higuera (Student in School of Art), Che Perez (Architecture Student Council), Kristof Toth (Engineering Student Council)
Questions
Before our first meeting I collected some topics to discuss and asked a few people if they had questions I could throw out in addition to my own:
- How can we put in place better tools and workflows to help the administration actually be accountable and transparent?
- Can we reduce the number of administrators we have and how much theyâre paid?
- Whats going on with turnover on the board? There have been lots of comings and goings over the past year.
- Do you think itâs worth paying for education? (Kind of a fluffy question, but Iâd like to hear the trustees articulate what is valuable about higher education in relation to the price it typically commands today.)
- What happens if the board rejects the hybrid model after it is presented to them by Jamshed on November 15th?
- Why have there been threats of closure? Especially to faculty and the dean of the Engineering school? Is there anything in the schoolâs charter about closure?
- What is the reputational risk of implementing tuition vs. closing schools?
- Why did Jamshed Bharucha, president of the school, get added to the board? Isnât that a conflict of interest? (He is supposed to present plans to the Board and now gets to vote on them?)
- How much money does the board give to the school? Is it on par with other institutions?
- Can you address a rumor that approaching the attorney general to free up restricted funds from the endowment might jeopardize our arrangement with the Chrysler Building?
Notes
Iâve organized my notes from the meeting by topic of discussion:
Transparency and Communication
- Mark asks: why do people distrust the board?
- Rachel asks: can we have access to the Boardâs meeting minutes? Mark says no, board meetings are ânecessarily confidentialâ because board members throw out lots of bad ideas for discussion and donât want misinformation to spread.
- Mark says slander on social media, âdeath threatsâ, and a low alumni contribution rate are obstacles that prevent the administration from raising money for the school.
- Casey counters that all the relentlessly positive spin put out by the school actually hurts it, the notion of a pristine public image is old-school, and thereâs no way to control what people say. What if the school embraced the crazy, diverse âecosystemâ of opinions and ideas and didnât mince words about its instability for a change?
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Mark admits he wasnât happy with the Wall Street Journal article because it âdownplayed the need for donationsâ. The Board has a communications committee that deals with these issues.
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The administration claims to strive for transparency, but anybody who goes digging far enough finds that the school wonât provide specific information or there are ridiculous bottlenecks to access. Lots of documents have been posted. Administrators are holding office hours. But what about making everything available online? Jamshed responds we can only share certain things within the âCooper familyâ because posting everything on the internet could jeopardize sensitive negotiations with financial, legal, and philanthropic institutions.
- Lawrence Cacciatore reiterates that the level of access weâre getting â this meeting, for example â is unprecedented.
- Casey counters that itâs not enough.
Control
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Mark: âCooper is unique in many ways, not in governance.â Putting a student on the board is ânot going to happen.â âYou need to learn to accept a no.â
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T.C. has a report on administrative vs. instructional costs. We should check this out.
- Kristof: we respect our representatives, again with the idea of talking more in smaller rooms, we respect reps, diff
- Mark Epstein: that things where 97% of students gave a penny? âNot cuteâŠinsulting.â
- Mark: our alumni are not wealthy enough to fund us so we have to look for alternatives. If the message of giving back isnât working, maybe we should talk about âgiving forward.â
- Mark: Cooperâs Board hired consultants to tell them how they can be a better board. They reccomended changes such as much shorter terms for trustees, so the board reduced them a little bit.
Value and Cash
- Mauricio tried repeatedly to talk about Cooper âbeyond the numbersâ, Mark responds âwe canât get beyond numbersâ. Mark says that there are many complicated ways to do accounting but he has two columns: money in and money out.
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Jamshed briefed student council members very early on about âthe plan which came to be known as the Hybrid Modelâ. Communication breakdown between student council and student body or problem of representation?
- Ché Pérez (Architecture Student Council): Because our model is so unqiue, what if we positioned Cooper at the center of the dialogue on education, and focused on hosting events and programs about education?
- Mark Epstein: That creates value, yes. But value isnât cash. Value doesnât pay the bills.
Cooperâs Future
- In response to repeated comments from students about the importance of Cooperâs scholarship, Mark underscored that he thinks Cooperâs key quality is not its scholarship but its excellence. âWhat if we kept the school free but it was like a community college?â
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Mark says that philanthropic foundations donât like the schoolâs merit-based admission policy because they arenât comfortable funding scholarships given to students that could afford to pay otherwise.
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Francois de Menil: the faculty are the heart and soul of the school
- Mark Epstein: The Board doesnât get involved with curriculum. âNoses in, fingers out.â The budget is worked out by the present.
- Che: School of Architecture only has two tenured faculty. So budget has a direct affect on curriculum.
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Jamshed agrees that the school should have more tenured faculty.
- Mauricio didnât like what Peter Cafiero had to say on the day students were invited into a board meeting after dangling dollar bills outside. Jamshed responds: âsometimes the truth makes you cry, Mauricio.â
Where to go from here
There are a number of things I want to follow up on:
- finding out which trustees are on which committee
- working with Lawrence Cacciatore on digitizing archives of public documents and information
- preparing a report on reccomended tools and workflows for better accountability and transparency
- obtaining T.C.âs report on administrative vs. instructional costs
- following up on questions that remain unanswered at the next meeting
Our next meeting is scheduled for November 28th at 10am in the Presidentâs Conference Room. In addition to Rachel and I, one non-student-council student body representative may attend but it hasnât been decided yet how this person will be chosen. Get in touch if youâre interested! Please also let me know if youâd like clarification on any of these points or have questions/concerns youâd like me to bring to the Board.